Two – two – two faiths in one!

I’m really picking on ECUSA today. No, I don’t have a hardon about Episcopalians. It’s just that there’s SO MUCH today. Like this tale of a priestess who thought she could be a priestess and a Muslim at the same time:

But Redding said she felt her new Muslim faith did not pose a contradiction to her staying a Christian and minister.

“Both religions say there’s only one God,” Redding said, “and that God is the same God. It’s very clear we are talking about the same God! So I haven’t shifted my allegiance.”

ECUSA did the right thing for once and defrocked her (or should that be “dehajibed”?

The Diocese of Rhode Island, where Redding was ordained, told her to leave either her new Muslim faith or the ministry. A diocese statement said Bishop Geralyn Wolf found Redding to be “a woman of utmost integrity. However, the Bishop believes that a priest of the Church cannot be both a Christian and a Muslim.”

The decision was doubtless made easier by Redding taking on an anti-womyn religion that doesn’t recognize the sacrament of abortion. This is serious; it’s not like openly living as the male lover of another man, which is good for a bishopric.

But I have to wonder why Redding didn’t think she could surrender to God as a Christian. Or why she swallowed the Muslim “same God” Flavr-Aid, when their gods have quite different messages. I’m really seeing a total failure here to understand “mere Christianity” and have to wonder what they’re teaching in their seminaries. Oh yeah…that. And it’s funny that both of today’s clueless are female. Maybe the Anglican Catholics had a point when they bolted over ordination of women.

UPDATE: Here’s more:

She calls Christianity the “world religion of privilege.” She has never believed in original sin. And for years she struggled with the nature of Jesus’ divinity.

And she’s a dry drunk, though coming from good family.

I have some sympathy, as most people’s notion of Original Sin is, to be blunt, blasphemous: that God personally hates you because of something your Ur-ancestors did, and the only way he’d quit hating you is to pledge fealty to the Child he abused by having Him come down here. I don’t have it all figured out yet myself, but my notion of Original Sin is more like a genetic defect: we’re broken, and God had to fix us in order to hang with us, because God and sin are incompatible. And I accept it out of deep cynicism born of experience: the belief that everything and everyone is ultimately effed up and that nothing we can do will make the world right.

I’d assume that somebody who’d been through divinity school would have a reasonably sophisticated understanding of Original Sin. But then, I’d expect such a person to be a Christian too.


7 Responses to Two – two – two faiths in one!

  1. I.Kate says:

    An Episcopal Minister who does not understand the essence of Christianity,that Jesus is the son of God, not merely a prophet?

    I have to wonder what Redding learned in studying for her doctorate..sounds more like voodoo than Christianity to me.

    Also to the point is what common understanding (or lack of it)about the nature of Christianity exists between ministers of the Episcopal faith?

  2. jeffreyquick says:

    Or there’s the little matter that Islam is about Law rather than Grace.
    The C of E has always been a big tent covering Calvinists and Papists. But at least they were all Christian. I’ve seen some movement towards expanding the tent to include Wiccans (and here, Moslems). Believe this former Wiccan: not a good idea. ECUSA should not become a Unitarian church with better music.

  3. rwp says:

    The indictment is that she was ordained in the first place. I have to agree with her, though. I also don’t see why she can’t be an Episcopal priest-ess and a Muslim. Why not?

  4. jeffreyquick says:

    Because, as I said, Islam is “an anti-womyn religion that doesn’t recognize the sacrament of abortion.”

    Note that this does not rely on the truth of the proposition “The Episcopal church is a Christian denomination”, which is at the very least debatable. I don’t think it’s debatable that one cannot be a Muslim and a Christian at the same time. I’m surprised that Muslims haven’t argued that her continuation in ECUSA constituted a conversion or apostasy from Islam. She could lose her head for that, except that you can’t lose what you never had.

  5. rwp says:

    Sure, but I mean why would the Episcopals object? Why bother to defrock her at all?

  6. jeffreyquick says:

    Like I said, because she’s a gender traitor.
    I really think that ECUSA-ites believe that their religion means something. That meaning may or may not be the same meaning as Christianity, but I’m sure they believe in something besides the formula for the perfect martini.

    One argument against defrocking would be the rapidly declining job market for Episcopal priests; why bother to defrock when she won’t be hired anyway?

  7. kishnevi says:

    RWP–as I understand it, she was ordained well before she converted to Islam.

    Presumably, this is the ECUSA’s way of making clear that there are some things they agree on with the conservatives. And there is actually a strong feeling against Moslems among the ECUSA and its British allies, precisely because Moslems tend to be harshly anti-feminist.

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