Coulter v. Farah

Ace nails the thing, I think.

I guess that I’m a Dispensationalist in that I really don’t seen any evidence that, post-Jesus, God is in the business of smiting populations. Sure, the Jews got it good in 70AD, but that was blowback for things that happened before (immediately before, perhaps?) the Resurrection. And there is karma; some sins (coveting your neighbor’s house and demanding a subprime mortgage so you can get one too) carry their own punishment. I’m open to the argument that gay marriage is one such, but nobody is explaining how that works. I’m with Glenn Beck on this; I don’t care on a personal level. I care on a theological level; sin is sin, and I’m not going to pretend that homosexual monogamy is somehow superior to homosexual promiscuity, or that it’s OK for a bishop to be actively gay because he’s only doing that with one person. But for the average guy, it’s not my business; that’s between you, your partner, and God. That’s tolerance, and tolerance is not like. If you’re expecting a gold star in “Plays well with boys”, forget it. I don’t get one for “plays well with girls”. And I could argue that, at certain times in my life, my sexuality was just as disordered as yours, just in a straight way, so I don’t get to throw stones. I’m glad that Ann Coulter (and the Hillboyz) are doing outreach. We need all the sensible people we can get on our side. We don’t need to drive them away, as Farah seems to want to do.

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2 Responses to Coulter v. Farah

  1. kishnevi says:

    but that was blowback for things that happened before (immediately before, perhaps?) the Resurrection.

    [throat clearing noise]
    Blowback, my foot. The War of the Churban was really just the midpoint in a century or more of confrontation between the Jews and the Romans, and it was the first of three or four phases in which outright warfare broke out. The middle phase (or phases–the historians aren’t sure if one or two outbreaks were involved) came approximately 110 CE, and was mostly in North Africa, Syria and modern Iraq with some fighting in the Holy Land (it’s called the “polemos of Quietus”, Quietus being the most important Roman general involved). The final phase was the Hadrianic persecution/Bar Kochba Revolt (again, there’s some difficulty involved in figuring out what exactly happened–it’s hard to say if the revolt was a response to the persecution, or the persecution was a response to the revolt)–but Hadrian proved himself to be one of the world’s worst anti-Semites (probably the only person to rival Hitler for the title of The Worst), and the only one other than Antiochus Epimanes who sought to destroy the religion root and branch–and came very close to doing so, except he couldn’t reach the Babylonian diaspora under Parthian rule. But he’s the reason the Yishuv, the Jews of the Holy Land, became less important than the Diasopora: he almost totally destroyed what the preceding generations left standing.

    And the revolts came because the Romans were in general devoted to getting as much money out of the territories as possible, fair means or foul, and prone to dislike Jewish religious beliefs–which of course did not endear them to the Jews.

    In a sense this did go back to things before the Crucifixion, because the troubles were already picking up then. Think of how people were hoping Jesus was a political messiah, and how the Romans executed him for claiming to be “King of the Jews”.
    Everyone was sizing him as the leader of a potential revolt.

    Side note: I don’t have time tonight to check out the passage Ace cites from Romans. Is he correct in saying that St. Paul meant that homosexuality was a sign of God’s wrath on a society, not a cause?

  2. Jeffrey Quick says:

    Not discounting political causes; it’s just the most glaring counterexample to my notion that “God doesn’t do mass ass-kicking anymore.” And there’s the Shoah. Maybe God just ass-kicks the Jews…or possibly people who mess with them.

    Re St. Paul: Romans 1 is pretty clear on that, even repeating “for this reason”. But it’s also the lede on a whole list of things, and he wraps it up with…”You’re all guilty of this, you’re no better than they are and you all deserve to die” (my paraphrase). He was writing to a place that shared the worst traits of NYC, DC and SF, and “If it bleeds, it leads”.

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